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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2014 at 2:46amAround 1800 John Glasson took over the operation of Polpeor Farm from his father in law Edmund Uren. Joseph and William, two of his sons are found there in the early census and the last Glasson to farm at Polpeor was James Glasson who in 1892 eventually sold what he was entitled to sell for 300 pounds and after converting that money to whisky he died a poor man in the Workhouse around 1900. The farm passed to the Olds family who were eventually able to purchase the farm outright for 2,500 pounds in 1922 and they still control the operation of the farm today with it being leased out. The farm is too small now (40 acres or so) to be a viable farming unit on its own. I was fortunate enough last week to spend part of a day with Ralph Olds who farmed Polpeor after his father - Ralph being well retired now.... we went round the farm and the first thing I was to learn was that the original dwelling had been demolished and a few stones could be seen in an old aerial photograph of the farm - it being situated to the right of the present house. For anyone visiting Polpeor Farm the house stood where now stands a large caravan. The farm buildings across the road from the house have been sold and are partially developed as I understand. In our tour there were three items of interest that I was not previously aware of. First was the story that a mine collapse under one of the paddocks still contains the remains of 23 miners who were working there at the time. The second is the capping of a 100 fathom (600 feet) vertical access |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2014 at 2:46amAround 1800 John Glasson took over the operation of Polpeor Farm from his father in law Edmund Uren. Joseph and William, two of his sons are found there in the early census and the last Glasson to farm at Polpeor was James Glasson who in 1892 eventually sold what he was entitled to sell for 300 pounds and after converting that money to whisky he died a poor man in the Workhouse around 1900. The farm passed to the Olds family who were eventually able to purchase the farm outright for 2,500 pounds in 1922 and they still control the operation of the farm today with it being leased out. The farm is too small now (40 acres or so) to be a viable farming unit on its own. I was fortunate enough last week to spend part of a day with Ralph Olds who farmed Polpeor after his father - Ralph being well retired now.... we went round the farm and the first thing I was to learn was that the original dwelling had been demolished and a few stones could be seen in an old aerial photograph of the farm - it being situated to the right of the present house. For anyone visiting Polpeor Farm the house stood where now stands a large caravan. The farm buildings across the road from the house have been sold and are partially developed as I understand. In our tour there were three items of interest that I was not previously aware of. First was the story that a mine collapse under one of the paddocks still contains the remains of 23 miners who were working there at the time. The second is the capping of a 100 fathom (600 feet) vertical access to a mine during the second world war and it is said that the opening was loosely covered with nearby foliage and then a concrete mix poured over it. It is said that it rained before the sub standard concrete mix set. But to this day animals can be found warming themselves from the concrete oblivious of the inherent possibility of a drop. The third item is a small clearing along the farm where tin was transported away from the farm during the second world war. I enjoyed afternoon tea with Ralph and Patricia at nearby Ninnis where they live and they were keen to show me where part of their lawn had collapsed due to an adit below the lawn finally giving away after the recent heavy rains - this was apparently not the first instance of collapses in the area. It was an extremely enjoyable day despite the rain and I learnt more in that afternoon that I have previously learnt about the farm in total. Lannanta |
Post by sue on Mar 30, 2014 at 12:42pmFantastic. During my 2009 trip I had an impromptu wee chat with the Olds - or perhaps their son & his wife - & we talked about the current difficulties of farming up there & alternative occupations, also the achievement of the ancestors raising the large sum of £2500 to purchase Polpeor. But obviously nothing as detailed as your time spent with them! I put together a little family history & sent it through, and have a nice thankyou Christmas card I've kept, somewhere..... I also have a wee pamphlet, also somewhere, that one of the Polpeor hamlet residents put together about the mine shafts etc around Polpeor, which didn't mean a lot to me back then but perhaps might now; I found people up there were very interested in the localised history even when they were relative "incomers". I can remember each of the people who kindly talked to us with their interesting snippets (prompted by initial suspicion as we took photographs of places our ancestors had lived/mined/farmed). Hope you've had a great trip, and I'm envious! Sue |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 at 1:04amHello Sue I would very much like to see a copy of that if possible? Lannanta |
Post by sue on Mar 31, 2014 at 9:48amHi Lannanta Yesterday when I re-read what I'd written, it did occur to me that I would be needing to find out where that "somewhere" in my piles of papers that pamphlet is lurking..... Will get on the case. Sue |
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Post by tenpoundpom on Apr 18, 2014 at 8:54am
Around 1800 John Glasson took over the operation of Polpeor Farm from his father in law Edmund Uren. Joseph and William, two of his sons are found there in the early census and the last Glasson to farm at Polpeor was James Glasson who in 1892 eventually sold what he was entitled to sell for 300 pounds and after converting that money to whisky he died a poor man in the Workhouse around 1900. Lannanta My connection is through John's wife, Elizabeth Trewhella, who is an aunt of some description. I hae been trying to work out the children and I'd be grtaeful for any extra information about William. Possible baptism record 1802, with mother being misnamed as "Susannah" (thanks to Kathie for posting that on the web years ago). I then have him marrying Margaret Grenfell 30 Nov 1824. But by 1841, at Polpear, (although relationships are not recorded), the wife seem to be Elizabeth, with likely children being Elizabeth (abt 1830), Josiah (abt 1831), Mary (abt 1833) and William (abt 1834.) I have a William Glasson marrying Elizabeth Curgenven at Towednack 19 August 1828. Did Margaret die and William remarry? Or have I got my William Glassons mixed up? William (of Polpear)has an older brother John who is a blacksmith/ innkeeper in St Ives. In the 1851 census he seems to have Josiah Glasson in the household as a "journeyman" and an Elizabeth who is described as a niece. I suspect that this Elizabeth is the daughter of his brother Jackey however! I'm sure CT and Lannanta have trod this road before! I haven't finished looking at the records, but happy to be gently pointed towards the correct path if I'm going wildly off track! Simon |
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Post by sue on Apr 18, 2014 at 9:16amHi Tenpoundpom John 1749 married into the Urens at Polpeor; it was his son John 1777 who married Elizabeth Trewhella. I will leave Lannanta & CT to explain your other confusions! (I think you'll find that Lannanta found William the husband of Margaret Grenfell left her in England and ended his days in Queensland....) It's good that the ancestors re-used family names as it helps us to identify children/siblings - but the flipside is that several uncles & cousins of the same name sure causes some head scratching! (Jakeh Glasson 1805 of John Glasson & Elizabeth Trewhella is my 4xGfather, & probably my favourite ancestor, the last of the brothers to run the pub The Cornish Arms at Trelyon, still there at his death in 1893 as "the genial old landlord" per his obituary.) Sue |
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Post by tenpoundpom on Apr 18, 2014 at 10:22am
Hi Tenpoundpom John 1749 married into the Urens at Polpeor; it was his son John 1777 who married Elizabeth Trewhella. I will leave Lannanta & CT to explain your other confusions! (I think you'll find that Lannanta found William the husband of Margaret Grenfell left her in England and ended his days in Queensland....) It's good that the ancestors re-used family names as it helps us to identify children/siblings - but the flipside is that several uncles & cousins of the same name sure causes some head scratching! (Jakeh Glasson 1805 of John Glasson & Elizabeth Trewhella is my 4xGfather, & probably my favourite ancestor, the last of the brothers to run the pub The Cornish Arms at Trelyon, still there at his death in 1893 as "the genial old landlord" per his obituary.) Sue Thanks for your speedy reply. Yes I did have John snr as marrying Christian Uren, and then John jnr marrying Elizabeth Trewhella. There is much more for me to fathom! Jaketh is a first cousin, though somewhat removed! |
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Post by sue on Apr 18, 2014 at 12:16pmIn terms of information about William Glasson 1802 son of John Glasson & Elizabeth Trewhella, he is not the chap 1841 at Lelant with Elizabeth, that's his cousin. William 1802 is I think out of the country 1841; at any rate, his wife Margaret is at Trelyon with children William & John; she is next door to brother-in-law John Glasson & his wife Jane (Jennings). 1851 the family is at Stoke Climsland then 1861 Plymouth. Then you should find him in the Queensland death indices; wife Margaret being in Devon 1871/1881. Hope that helps. Sue |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 at 1:48amSimon I have this among other things concerning William born 1802. Even though he was not born in Plymouth as we know, he did in fact emigrate to Australia from there. Kind regards Lannanta |
Post by roadrunner on Apr 19, 2014 at 12:22pmHello Sue &Simon ,. John Glasson [Wheal Kitty] married 1770 Christine Christian Uren at Lelant[Pilimores] |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 at 12:27amIf there is anything I can help you with just ask.. being the male that I am then I am better with answering specific questions than writing a book.. Lannanta |
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Some of the original buildings on Polpear farm in Lelant, the home of the Uren and Glasson families in the 1700s and 1800s.
Photo courtesy of Jo Glasson Smith, Sacramento, Ca.
GLASSON FAMILY
Some of the original buildings on Polpear farm in Lelant, the home of the Uren and Glasson families in the 1700s and 1800s.
Photo courtesy of Jo Glasson Smith, Sacramento, Ca.
GLASSON FAMILY:
Each generation of siblings is represented by the same number. The person
who is the direct ancestor (and the parent of the next generation) is given
in CAPITALS at the end of each generation, regardless of his birth order
in the family. Letters in ( ) are coded to notes at the end of the info.
1. JOHN GLASSON bur. 14 Mar 1714/5, Madron, Cornwall (x)
m. HONOR PERRY, (y) d. Penzance bur. 18 Mar 1738/9, Madron, Cornwall
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2. Eleanor Glasson chr. 8 Jun 1685, Madron, Cornwall (b)
2. John Glasson (a) m. 31 Dec 1711, Madron, Jane Dale (z) (issue)
2. THOMAS GLASSON (a)(c) b. ? d. St. Hilary bur. 15 Jan 1765, Madron
m. 3 Aug 1717, Madron, SUSANNA TROUNSEN (z)(see Trounsen)
.........
3. John Glasson chr. 28 Jun 1718, Madron m. 3 Mar 1746, Madron, Elizabeth
Lanksbury. Resided at Ludgvan. (issue)
3. Thomas Glasson chr. 22 Aug 1719, Madron m. ? (issue)
3. Joseph Glasson chr. 25 Mar 1721, Madron d. Sithney bur. 26 Dec 1806
m. 6 Jan 1745/6, Madron, Katherine Bennatts (issue)
3. Stephen Glasson chr. 1 Jan 1726/7, Madron bur. 11 Feb 1729/30, Madron
3. James Glasson chr. 14 May 1727, Madron bur. 25 May 1802, Madron
m. 17 Feb. 1755, Madron, Jane Hosking (issue)
3. Susanna Glasson chr. 8 Jun 1729, Madron bur
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Some of the original buildings on Polpear farm in Lelant, the home of the Uren and Glasson families in the 1700s and 1800s.
Photo courtesy of Jo Glasson Smith, Sacramento, Ca.
GLASSON FAMILY
Some of the original buildings on Polpear farm in Lelant, the home of the Uren and Glasson families in the 1700s and 1800s.
Photo courtesy of Jo Glasson Smith, Sacramento, Ca.
GLASSON FAMILY:
Each generation of siblings is represented by the same number. The person
who is the direct ancestor (and the parent of the next generation) is given
in CAPITALS at the end of each generation, regardless of his birth order
in the family. Letters in ( ) are coded to notes at the end of the info.
1. JOHN GLASSON bur. 14 Mar 1714/5, Madron, Cornwall (x)
m. HONOR PERRY, (y) d. Penzance bur. 18 Mar 1738/9, Madron, Cornwall
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2. Eleanor Glasson chr. 8 Jun 1685, Madron, Cornwall (b)
2. John Glasson (a) m. 31 Dec 1711, Madron, Jane Dale (z) (issue)
2. THOMAS GLASSON (a)(c) b. ? d. St. Hilary bur. 15 Jan 1765, Madron
m. 3 Aug 1717, Madron, SUSANNA TROUNSEN (z)(see Trounsen)
.........
3. John Glasson chr. 28 Jun 1718, Madron m. 3 Mar 1746, Madron, Elizabeth
Lanksbury. Resided at Ludgvan. (issue)
3. Thomas Glasson chr. 22 Aug 1719, Madron m. ? (issue)
3. Joseph Glasson chr. 25 Mar 1721, Madron d. Sithney bur. 26 Dec 1806
m. 6 Jan 1745/6, Madron, Katherine Bennatts (issue)
3. Stephen Glasson chr. 1 Jan 1726/7, Madron bur. 11 Feb 1729/30, Madron
3. James Glasson chr. 14 May 1727, Madron bur. 25 May 1802, Madron
m. 17 Feb. 1755, Madron, Jane Hosking (issue)
3. Susanna Glasson chr. 8 Jun 1729, Madron bur. 1 Jan 1729/30, Madron
3. Stephen Glasson chr. 1 Jan 1731/2, Madron d. Marazion bur.
7 Oct 1804, Madron m. 8 May 1759, Madron, Alice Perry (issue)
3. Susanna Glasson chr. 26 Aug 1733, Madron bur. 28 Mar 1742, Madron
3. Elizabeth Glasson chr. 13 Jul 1735, Madron bur. 7 Nov 1735, Madron
3. WILLIAM GLASSON chr. 27 Dec. 1723, Madron bur. 1 Sep 1765, Ludgvan
m. 19 Feb 1745, Madron, HONOR WALLISH (d) "of Penzance" (b. ca. 1725,
bur. 12 Feb 1794, Ludgvan)
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4. William Glasson chr. 29 Jul 1753, Ludgvan m. 12 Dec 1776, Ludgvan,
Ann Walker (issue)
4. Honor Glasson chr. 27 Dec 1755, Ludgvan bur. 12 Jun 1758, Ludgvan
4. Susanna Glasson (e) b. ca. 1760, Ludgvan m. 28 Jul 1789, Uny Lelant,
Thomas Reddiford (issue)
4. Honor Glasson chr. 2 Feb 1763, Ludgvan
4. JOHN GLASSON (f) chr. 27 Aug 1749, Ludgvan d. Ludgvan bur.
22 Nov 1817, Uny Lelant m. 26 Dec 1770, Uny Lelant, CHRISTIAN UREN (g)
(see Uren). Resided Polpear, Uny Lelant. (h)
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5. William Glasson (i) chr. 8 Sep 1771, Lelant d. at Towednack (j)
bur. 21 May 1851, Lelant m. 29 Dec 1798, Ludgvan, Ann Glasson (k)
(issue)
5. Ann Glasson chr. 26 Sep 1773, Lelant m. 10 Jun 1797, Lelant, William
Trewhella (issue)
5. Susanna Glasson chr. 11 Jun 1779, Lelant d. at Chyangweal, Lelant
bur. 31 May 1847, Lelant m. 2 Jun 1799, Lelant, George Perry (l) (issue)
5. Jakeh Glasson chr. 21 Oct 1781, Lelant d. Gwinear bur. 18 May 1823,
Lelant m. Jennifer ________ (issue)
5. Elizabeth Glasson (m) chr. 8 May 1784, Lelant d. St. Hilary bur.
9 Mar 1850, St. Buryan (o) m. 5 May 1803, Lelant, Thomas Jelbart (issue)
5. Josias Glasson chr. 15 Oct 1786, Lelant d. 22 Jul 1867, Hayle bur.
Phillack m. 19 Aug 1814, Towednack, Elizabeth Dunstone (issue)
5. Joseph Glasson chr. 26 Nov 1789, St Ives (n) d. at Polpear, Lelant
bur. 19 Feb 1866, Lelant m. 29 Feb 1812, Towednack, Wilmot Quick (p)
(issue)
5. Mary Glasson b. ca. 1792? bur. 3 Jun 1792, Lelant
5. JOHN GLASSON chr. 30 Mar 1777, Lelant d. at Polpear, Lelant bur.
6 Oct 1862, Lelant m. 1 Mar 1800, Towednack, ELIZABETH TREWHELLA
(see Trewhella) (p)
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6. John Glasson chr. 14 Dec 1800, Lelant d. at Trelyon, St. Ives
bur. 8 Jan 1870, Lelant m. 18 Oct 1828, Lelant, Jane Jennings. (q)
6. William Glasson chr. 26 Sep 1802, Lelant (u) m. 30 Nov 1824, Lelant,
Margaret Grenfell (r) (issue?)
6. Elizabeth Glasson b. ca. 1803/4 bur. 23 Oct 1806, Lelant (u)
6. Jakeh Glasson chr. 22 Sep 1805 m. 22 May 1829, St. Ives, Philippa
Quick (v) (issue)
6. Elizabeth chr. 7 Aug 1808, Lelant bur 3 Dec 1891, Lelant m. 15 May 1831,
Lelant, William Bryant (s) (issue)
6. Ann Glasson chr. 28 Jan 1811, Towednack
6. Christian Glasson chr. 30 Jan 1814, Lelant m. John Trevillian (issue)
6. Josiah Glasson chr. 31 Jan 1819, Lelant d. 1882 m. Surrey, ENG, Ann
Leahy (w) (issue)
6. Phillis Trewhella Glasson chr. 19 Oct 1823, Lelant m. 11 Mar 1845,
Lelant, Henry Arthur (issue)
6. ELIZA GLASSON chr. 28 Apr 1816, Lelant bur. 31 Dec 1891, Lelant
m. 6 Oct 1834, Lelant, JOHN HAMPTON (t) (b. 1811 bur. 31 Mar 1853,
Lelant, s/o John and Catherine (HAWES) HAMPTON. (see Hampton)
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SOURCES and NOTES:
The majority of the information has been taken from the following four
sources. Individual notes follow.
. Madron, Cornwall original Parish Register, LDS film #1595913.
. Ludgvan, Cornwall original Parish Register, LDS film #1595868.
. St. Uny Lelant, Cornwall original Parish Register, LDS film #1595781.
. Towednack, Cornwall, transcripts of original Parish Register, baptisms
and burials only, thru 1812. LDS film #254222.
Notes coded to letters ( ) in body of info:
a. Archdeaconry of Cornwall, Will of Honor Glasson of Madderne widow,
dp. 2 May 1739. Written 13 February 1738/9. Names John and George
Glasson "sons of son John"; Jane and Susanna Glasson "wives of sons
John and Thomas"; Thomas Glasson Jr. "son of son Thomas." Mentions
also a "tenement at Hea."
b. Madron, Cornwall, Bishop's Transcripts.
c. Archdeaconry of Cornwall, Will of Thomas Glasson, dp. 29 May 1765.
Written 5 September 1759. Names sons John, Thomas, Joseph, William,
James and Stephen. Also mentions tenement at Hea.
d. Honor Glasson, widow, married at Ludgvan, 12 Feb 1768, Nathaniel
Honeychurch. Honor Honeychurch bur. 12 Feb 1794, age 68.
e. Susanna Glasson who married Thomas Reddiford in Lelant is almost certainly
a sister of John Glasson, who was the "pioneer" Glasson in Lelant. No
Susanna of the correct age can be found in any of the local parish
registers, so her christening went unrecorded. William Glasson's mother
was named Susanna, and John Glasson named a daughter Susanna. (Note: it is
also possible that the second daughter called Honor found in the Ludgvan
register was actually Susanna and the clerk recorded the name incorrectly).
f. Note: John Glasson was Overseer of the Poor for Lelant parish in
1799-1801.
g. Lelant P.R.: Banns published 2, 11 and 16 December. John signed his name;
Christian signed with an "O". Witnesses were Thomas Uren (the bride's
father) and John Edwards.
h. St. Uny Lelant, Cornwall, Churchwarden's Accounts, 1722-1800,
LDS film #254226. John Glasson paid rates for "part of Polpear"
beginning in 1787, shortly after the death of his father-in-law.
i. Lelant P.R.: parents listed incorrectly as "John and Catherine."
The names Christian and Catherine can be found interchanged with some
frequency in the Lelant registers.
j. Lelant P.R.: Residence at death Towednack.
Census of Great Britain 1851, Chylasson, Towednack, Cornwall, #33,
William Glasson, age 79, b. Lelant, wife Ann, age 74, b. Ludgvan.
k. William's wife was his 1st cousin, Ann Glasson, daughter of William
and Ann (Walker) Glasson of Ludgvan.
l. Witnesses John Glasson and Richard Hawes (parish clerk).
m. Lelant P.R.: Marriage of Elizabeth Glasson of Lelant and Thomas Jelbart
of Lelant; witnesses John Glasson (same signature as on several of
Elizabeth's siblings marriages) and Phillis Trewhella. Elizabeth named
children William, John, Josiah and Joseph. She was buried at St. Buryan
in 1850, age 66, which puts her birth to 1784. There was a christening at
Lelant in 1784 of a son William to John and Christian; however, their
1st son William was alive and well, and the later records on him (see
note j.) fit his birth in 1771. There is no evidence of a second William
existing; It appears that this was a clerk's error, and the child
christened was actually Elizabeth. Note also that Elizabeth's husband, Thomas
Jelbart, was one of the bondsmen for the estate of John Glasson of Lelant.
n. International Genealogical Index, Cornwall, LDS. Extracts from various
Cornish parish registers. Parents listed as John and "Kitty" Glasson.
o. Burial record of Elizabeth Jelbart provided by Rob Wilson, Cirencester,
Gloucester, England.
p. International Genealogical Index, Cornwall, LDS. Extracts of marriages
from various Cornish parishes.
q. Witnesses Thomas Bryant and John Glasson.
r. Witnesses Richard Grenfell and Jakeh Glasson.
s. Witnesses William Glasson and Jacke Glasson.
t. Witnesses were John Glasson and Thomas Richards (parish clerk).
u. Parents given as John and SUSANNA Glasson. No known family of this name
in the area; clerk may have confused name of John's wife with that of
his sister.
v. St. Ives, Cornwall, Parish Register, LDS film #1595570. Witnesses
were William Glasson and Tho. Williams.
w. Wife's name and death date provided by Jo Glasson Smith. In 1881 Josiah
was living with his sister Christian Trevelyanin Penzance. He wass age
62, married, but his wife was not present. In 1871 his wife was living at
St. Ives, listed as marreid, but husband not present.
x. Archdeaconry of Cornwall, Index to Wills and Admons, Madron, bond of
Johis Glasson, dp. 10 October 1715.
y. Archdeaconry of Cornwall, Will of George Perry, dp. 3 October 1723.
Names sister Honor Glasson.
z. John Glasson's wife Jane Dale, and Thomas Glasson's wife Susanna Trounsen
were first cousins, Jane being the daughter of John and Katherine
(Trounsen) Dale, and Susanna being the daughter of Peter Trounsen,
Katherine's brother.
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