John (son of Michael) Williams, the Third; of Scorrier House

John (son of Michael) Williams, the Third; of Scorrier House[1]

- Described in 1868 as "one of the most extensive and most successful managers of mines, as well as adventurers, the county ever produced
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Male 1753 - 1841  (87 years)


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    Name John (son of Michael) Williams 
    Suffix the Third; of Scorrier House 
    Birth 23 Sep 1753  Gwennap, Cornwall Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Christening 15 Oct 1753  Gwennap [Parish Circuit Or Chapel], Gwennap, Cornwall Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Married 1832 (78 years)  Sandhill House(Sandock House), Sandhill, Gunnislake Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    In 1832 John Williams caused a scandal in the family by marrying Mary Edwards, the young house keeper at Sandhill, who was 56 years his junior. They had a daughter born in 1832 who died when only four years old 
    Residence 25 Feb 1835 (81 years)  Sandhill House(Sandock House), Sandhill, Gunnislake Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Residence at death of daughter Mary Susan 
    Residence 17 Apr 1841 (87 years)  Sandhill House(Sandock House), Sandhill, Gunnislake Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    John Williams died at Sandhill House on the 17th of April 1841 in his 89th year. His second wife Mary is recorded in the 1841 census as still living at Sandhill House with two female companions, all described as of ‘independent means’, together with five servants and a gardener who lived at Sandhill Lodge at the south end of the carriage drive 
    Death 17 Apr 1841  Sandhill House(Sandock House), Sandhill, Gunnislake Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Probate 31 Jul 1841 (87 years) 
    NA PROB 11/1949/299 Will of John Williams of Sandhill , Cornwall 31 Jul 1841 
    Interesting fact 1868 (114 years)  [3
    Described in 1868 as "one of the most extensive and most successful managers of mines, as well as adventurers, the county ever produced 
    Burial Y  [3
    Occupation Abt 1778 (24 years) - Calstock  Find all individuals with events at this location - By the late 1770’s he was also taking an increasing interest in his east Cornwall mines
    1778 (24 years) - Scorrier House, Scorrier, Cornwall  Find all individuals with events at this location - Scorrier House was built in 1778 by John Williams the 3rd (1753 – 1841), the first son of Michael Williams the 1st (1730 – 1775) and Susanna Harris (died 1814). John Williams was described in 1868 as "one of the most extensive and most successful managers of mines, as well as adventurers, the county ever produced"
    1800 (46 years) - Gunnislake, Calstock  Find all individuals with events at this location - by 1800 his Gunnislake mines had further increased the family fortunes. Such was his influence in the area that for several years after 1816 the village was known as Williamstown
    Abt 1807 (53 years) - manor of Calstock, Calstock  Find all individuals with events at this location - Early in the 19th Century he became owner and Lord of the 6000 acre Manor of Calstock [2]
    Abt 1824 (70 years) - Plymouth  Find all individuals with events at this location - Blessed with unbounded physical and intellectual energy and when in his late seventy’s and unable to tolerate retirement, John Williams, in association with his son Edward, built the Plymouth breakwater. [3]
    1826 (72 years) - Sandhill House(Sandock House), Sandhill, Gunnislake  Find all individuals with events at this location - By 1826, the year his wife Catherine died, then aged 73, John Williams had passed much of his empire to his sons and had retired to live at Sandhill House [3]
    Association [Company] John Williams and Sons (Relationship: company founder) 
    Person ID I7562  AHP
    Last Modified 19 Jan 2024 

    Father Michael Williams, the 1st,   b. 1730   d. 1775 (Age 45 years) 
    Relationship Birth 
    Mother Susanna Harris/WILLIAMS, of Gwennap,   b. Abt 1730 
    Relationship Birth 
    Marriage 13 Nov 1752  Cury [Parish Circuit Or Chapel], Cury, Cornwall Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Age at Marriage He : ~ 22 years and 11 months - She : ~ 22 years and 11 months. 
    Family ID F2128  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Catherine Harvey/WILLIAMS,   b. Abt 1755   d. 14 Oct 1826, Scorrier House, Scorrier, Cornwall Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 71 years)  [4
    Marriage 23 Jan 1776  Kenwyn [Parish Circuit Or Chapel], Kenwyn, Cornwall Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Age at Marriage He : 22 years and 4 months - She : ~ 21 years and 1 month. 
    Association [Company] John Williams and Sons (Relationship: company) 
    Children 
     1. John Williams, the Fourth; of Burncoose,   b. 3 Aug 1777, Burncoose House, Burncoose, Gwennap, Cornwall Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 11 Aug 1849, Burncoose House, Burncoose, Gwennap, Cornwall Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 72 years)
    +2. Michael Williams, II (MP),   b. 3 Jun 1785   d. 15 Jun 1858, Trevince, Trevince Estate, Gwennap Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 73 years)  [Father: Birth]  [Mother: Birth]
    +3. Sir William Williams, Baronet Williams of Tregullow in the County of Cornwall", on 4 Aug 1866,   b. 3 August 1791   d. 24 Mar 1870 (Age 78 years)  [Father: Birth]  [Mother: Birth]
    +4. Edward Williams,   b. Abt 1795   d. Abt 1830 (Age 35 years)  [Father: Birth]  [Mother: Birth]
    Histories
    THE RISE OF THE WILLIAMSES, OF SCORRIER- Thursday 27 March 1879
    THE RISE OF THE WILLIAMSES, OF SCORRIER- Thursday 27 March 1879
    Cornishman - Thursday 27 March 1879
    Family ID F2522  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 17 Jan 2024 

    Family 2 Mary Edwards/WILLIAMS,   b. Abt 1808 
    Marriage 1832 
    Age at Marriage He : ~ 78 years and 3 months - She : ~ 24 years. 
    Association [Company] John Williams and Sons (Relationship: company) 
    Children 
     1. Mary Susan Williams,   b. 1832   d. Abt 25 Feb 1835, Sandhill House(Sandock House), Sandhill, Gunnislake Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 3 years)  [Father: Birth]  [Mother: Birth]
    Histories
    THE RISE OF THE WILLIAMSES, OF SCORRIER- Thursday 27 March 1879
    THE RISE OF THE WILLIAMSES, OF SCORRIER- Thursday 27 March 1879
    Cornishman - Thursday 27 March 1879
    Family ID F2992  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 17 Jan 2024 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 23 Sep 1753 - Gwennap, Cornwall Find all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChristening - 15 Oct 1753 - Gwennap [Parish Circuit Or Chapel], Gwennap, Cornwall Find all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 23 Jan 1776 - Kenwyn [Parish Circuit Or Chapel], Kenwyn, Cornwall Find all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - By the late 1770’s he was also taking an increasing interest in his east Cornwall mines - Abt 1778 (24 years) - Calstock Find all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Scorrier House was built in 1778 by John Williams the 3rd (1753 – 1841), the first son of Michael Williams the 1st (1730 – 1775) and Susanna Harris (died 1814). John Williams was described in 1868 as "one of the most extensive and most successful managers of mines, as well as adventurers, the county ever produced" - 1778 (24 years) - Scorrier House, Scorrier, Cornwall Find all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - by 1800 his Gunnislake mines had further increased the family fortunes. Such was his influence in the area that for several years after 1816 the village was known as Williamstown - 1800 (46 years) - Gunnislake, Calstock Find all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - By 1826, the year his wife Catherine died, then aged 73, John Williams had passed much of his empire to his sons and had retired to live at Sandhill House - 1826 (72 years) - Sandhill House(Sandock House), Sandhill, Gunnislake Find all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - In 1832 John Williams caused a scandal in the family by marrying Mary Edwards, the young house keeper at Sandhill, who was 56 years his junior. They had a daughter born in 1832 who died when only four years old - 1832 - Sandhill House(Sandock House), Sandhill, Gunnislake Find all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Residence at death of daughter Mary Susan - 25 Feb 1835 - Sandhill House(Sandock House), Sandhill, Gunnislake Find all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - John Williams died at Sandhill House on the 17th of April 1841 in his 89th year. His second wife Mary is recorded in the 1841 census as still living at Sandhill House with two female companions, all described as of ‘independent means’, together with five servants and a gardener who lived at Sandhill Lodge at the south end of the carriage drive - 17 Apr 1841 - Sandhill House(Sandock House), Sandhill, Gunnislake Find all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 17 Apr 1841 - Sandhill House(Sandock House), Sandhill, Gunnislake Find all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth
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  • Photos
    John Williams in old age by Leakey | c 1826-1841
    John Williams in old age by Leakey | c 1826-1841
    A portrait of John Williams in old age by Leakey believed to have been painted while he was living at Sandhill House

    Documents
    This is the last Will of me John Williams of Sandhill in the county of Cornwall esquire
    This is the last Will of me John Williams of Sandhill in the county of Cornwall esquire

    Histories Watch: A history of Scorrier House by Ollie Williams (Cornwall Live)
    (At least one living or private individual is linked to this item - Details withheld.)
    THE RISE OF THE WILLIAMSES, OF SCORRIER- Thursday 27 March 1879
    THE RISE OF THE WILLIAMSES, OF SCORRIER- Thursday 27 March 1879
    Cornishman - Thursday 27 March 1879

    Stories
    Seems to be some dispute/mistakes as to which John Williams built Scorrier House and Great Adit:
    Seems to be some dispute/mistakes as to which John Williams built Scorrier House and Great Adit:

  • Sources 
    1. [S37] Wikipedia.
      John Williams the Third (23 September 1753 – 17 April 1841), son of Michael Williams (1730–1775), controlled the Gwennap copperbelt and copper smelting works in Swansea. Also owned tin-smelting works, sulphur mines and quarries. He was a Director of The Cornish Bank. With the Fox family of Falmouth, built the Plymouth breakwater and developed the harbour at Portreath and linked it by the Portreath tramway to his mine at Poldice. Purchased land at Scorrier and built Scorrier House there. Married Catherine Harvey in 1776. Received a dream warning of the assassination of the Prime Minister in 1812, "correct in every detail".[3]

    2. [S37] Wikipedia, 1807 (Reliability: 2).
      The manor was sold by the Duchy to John Williams of Scorrier House circa 1807.[12]
      "The Rise of the Williamses, of Scorrier". The Cornishman. No. 37. 27 March 1879. p. 8.

    3. [S121] Sandhill House Country Retreat, History - Sandhill House Country Retreat.
      By the late 1770’s he was also taking an increasing interest in his east Cornwall mines and by 1800 his Gunnislake mines had further increased the family fortunes. Such was his influence in the area that for several years after 1816 the village was known as Williamstown. Early in the 19th Century he became owner and Lord of the 6000 acre Manor of Calstock.

      By 1826, the year his wife Catherine died, then aged 73, John Williams had passed much of his empire to his sons and had retired to live at Sandhill House. In 1832 he caused a scandal in the family by marrying Mary Edwards, the young house keeper at Sandhill, who was 56 years his junior. They had a daughter born in 1832 who died when only four years old.
      John Williams painted at Sandhill House

      A portrait of John Williams in old age by Leakey believed to have been painted while he was living at Sandhill House.

      John Williams died at Sandhill House on the 17th of April 1841 in his 89th year. His second wife Mary is recorded in the 1841 census as still living at Sandhill House with two female companions, all described as of ‘independent means’, together with five servants and a gardener who lived at Sandhill Lodge at the south end of the carriage drive.

      Blessed with unbounded physical and intellectual energy and when in his late seventy’s and unable to tolerate retirement, John Williams, in association with his son Edward, built the Plymouth breakwater.

    4. [S121] Sandhill House Country Retreat, History - Sandhill House Country Retreat, 1776 (Reliability: 3).
      In 1776 he married Catherine Harvey; they had five sons and four daughters.